COMMISSION
INTERNATIONALE DE L'ECLAIRAGE
INTERNATIONAL COMMISSION ON ILLUMINATION
INTERNATIONALE BELEUCHTUNGSKOMMISSION
DIVISION 2: PHYSICAL MEASUREMENT OF LIGHT AND RADIATION
Minutes of the 2000
Division 2 Meeting
Saturday, April 8,
2000
NPL, Teddington,
UK
(DRAFT)
This document (in better format) in PDF is available
online.
Abbreviations:
AD: Associate Director
Brep: Board of Administration Report
CIECB: CIE Central Bureau
CIEBA: CIE Board of Administration
CM: Country Member
D2: Division 2 (D1, D4, D8,
likewise)
NC: National Committee
TC: Technical Committee
TCC: Technical Committee Chair
TR: Terms of Reference
ST: Status
WG: Working Group
ML: Member List
Attendees:
Richard Austin Gamma Scientific, USA
(TC2-51)
Jean
Bastie BNM-INM/CNM,
France (CIE Vice President)
Anton Bouman Philips,
Netherlands
Joaquin Campos CSIC, Spain
Peter Clarke NPL,
UK (TC2-28)
Dennis Couzin Avery Dennison,
USA
George Eppeldauer NIST, USA (TC2-48)
Teresa Goodman NPL, UK (D2
Director)
Didier Halkin Laborelec,
Belgium
Günther Heidel Osram
Optosemiconductors, Germany
Andrew Hanson NPL, UK (TC2-42)
Paola Iacomussi IEN, Italy
Norbert Johnson 3M, USA (D2
AD)
Carolyn Jones LumiLeds,
USA
David
King PK
Scientific, USA
Kohtaro Kohmoto JELMA, Japan
Hans Allan Löfberg Univ. Gävle,
Sweden (CIE President)
Dave McDowell Kodak, USA (D8
AD)
John
Moore UK (D2
Editor)
Kathleen Muray INPHORA, USA
(TC2-45)
Yoshi
Ohno NIST, USA
(D2 Secretary)
Allan
Ottosson Univ.
Gävle, Sweden
Jerzy Pietrzykowski GUM, Poland
Maria Luisa Rastello IEN, Italy
(TC2-16)
J.
Rennilson RCS,
USA (TC2-36)
Danny
Rich Sun
Chemical, USA (TC2-39)
Terubumi
Saito ETL, Japan
(representing H. Onuki)
Victor Sapritsky VNIIOFI,
Russia
Georg
Sauter PTB,
Germany (D2 AD)
Paolo Soardo IEN,
Italy
Raissa Stolyarevskaya VNIIOFI,
Russia
Natasha van Tonder CSIR-NML, South Africa
(representing F. Hengstberger)
Heinz
Terstiege Germany
Ian
Tutt Trinity
House, UK
Guy Vandermeersch Laborelec, Belgium (D2
AD)
Pierce
Webb Eastman
Kodak-retired, USA
Joanne Zwinkels NRC,
Canada (TC2-25)
Total 37 persons from 14 countries, including 14 country
members (representatives) attended. Underlines indicate country
members.
Regrets received by Secretary
Carl Andersen (USA, IALA)
John Arens (USA)
Peter Blattner (Switzerland)
John Clare (New Zealand)
Antonio Corrons (Spain)*
Stanko Erste (Slovenia)
Arnold Gaertner (Canada)
Jim Gardner (Australia)
K. Ganesha (India, TC2-24)
Franz Hengstberger (South Africa)*
Neil Hodson (USA, TC2-32)
Hiroaki Ikeda (Japan, IEC TC100/TA2)
Rainer Kohler (BIPM)
Ian Lewin (USA)
Daniel Lozano (Argentina)
Michael Matus (Austria)
Calvin McCamy (USA)
Klaus Mielenz (USA, TC2-35)
Hideo Onuki (Japan)*
Leyla Özturk (Turkey)
Alan Robertson (Canada)
John Scarangello (USA, TC2-46)
Gan Xu (Singapore, TC2-47)
Jeanne Marie Coutin (France)
Reiner Rattunde (Germany, TC2-40)
* Represented by other participant.
Underlines: country members.
Handouts
1) Agenda of the 2000 Division Meeting
2) List of Division 2 TCs, Reporterships, and Liaisons
1. Call to order
The Division Director, Teresa Goodman, opened the meeting at
10:45 am, and welcomed all present. The Director expressed her
thanks to Secretary Y. Ohno for his hard work to prepare for this
meeting and to keep Division 2 running actively throughout the
year. The Director introduced Jay Rennilson who is the president
of CIE-USA and the host of the CIE 25th Session in 2003 in San
Diego. Rennilson thanked Goodman and National committee of UK for
the hospitality for this meeting in Teddington, and expressed his
wish to welcome many people to the 2003 Session in San Diego.
2. Approval of agenda
Agenda of this 2000 Division 2 meeting (Attachment 1) was
approved with no changes.
3. Approval of the minutes of the 1999 Division
meeting
The minutes of the last Division meeting in Warsaw
(distributed by e-mail and mail in September 1999) was approved
with no corrections. The attendees were in favor of the detailed
version of the last meeting minutes.
4. Director's report (T. Goodman)
Director reported one of the important issues that came up at
the Board meeting in Warsaw &endash; a proposal for new membership
categories. These do not replace existing membership but are
additional ways that particular companies or new countries can
become involved in CIE. The new categories are: 1) Associate
national committee member &endash; for new countries or geographic
areas that have established a new national committee, no voting
rights, 2) Associate members &endash; for organizations or
individuals in countries where there is no national committees or
associate NCs, and 3) Supportive members &endash; for
international or regional organizations and companies. Supportive
members must be already a supporter of the NC and their support in
those countries must not be reduced. Supportive members split into
4 different levels: Basic, Silver, Gold, and Diamond. Different
levels have extra bonuses, for example, Gold members have a right
to have 3 pages space in CIE news, copies of CIE publications
within the company, etc. The levels depend on the fees.
5. Secretary's report (Y. Ohno)
(1) Arrangement for London meeting
Secretary first thanked Goodman and other members of NPL for
various arrangements for this meeting. It was a bit pity that we
had a conflict with Euromet meeting in Turkey, due to which
several people could not come. Their schedule came out later
without our knowledge.
(2) Country members
Div.2 currently has 34 country members, the same as last year.
Since last D2 meeting, we have some changes of the country
representatives; Japan (Nishi to Onuki), Romania (Ionescu to
Simionescu), Russia (Ignatyev to Stolyarevskaya), and Switzerland
(Blaser to Blattner).
(3) Activity Reports
The minutes of the Warsaw meeting were issued and distributed
in Sep. 1999. The draft minutes were first circulated by email in
August. The 1999 Activity Report was also issued and distributed
in Feb. 2000. Most of D2 circulars are now distributed via email
only, with documents posted on the website. Any problems with
electronic circulation of documents are to be reported to
Secretary. Physical mails are used only for those who have no
access to email and are limited to important circulars only. Fax
modem is also used for fax recipients to send email circulars
(text only).
(4) Division 2 Mailing List
The D2 mailing list now contains 138 persons (last year
&endash; 129). Among them, 128 have e-mail addresses (93 % of
all), 4 have access to fax and 6 rely on mail. The List includes
34 country members, 20 officers of CIE and Div.2, 29 TC chairs and
reporters, 8 former TC chairs, 5 liaison persons from outside
organizations, and 56 associates.
(5) Email reflector & virtual TC meeting
An email reflector for Div. 2 (cie-d2@nist.gov) was
established in March and is already being used actively. The
subscribers are all the persons on the D2 Mailing List and not
open to others. This reflector is intended for use for free
discussions the people on the D2 Mailing List as well as by
Secretary (and other D2 Officers) for distributing circulars.
Moderated discussion is also possible to reach decisions on urgent
matters. The Secretary also plans to create email reflectors for
all the D2 TCs to facilitate TC work. TC chairs are encouraged to
use email reflectors to hold virtual TC meetings in between
physical meetings or to follow up on the physical meetings that
tend to be very short.
Vandermeersch suggested to make a procedure for holding a
virtual TC meeting (agenda, start date, duration, advance
announcement, etc.). Hanson stressed that it is very important to
set (early) deadlines for responses in such virtual meetings.
Answering questions, Secretary added that attachments can be used
in these email reflectors (but long ones should be posted on the
website to avoid long receiving time for modem users), and these
reflectors can be set up at NIST shortly. Vandermeersch suggested
to have minimum rules (email titles, format, etc.) for the email
list (IEC, e.g., every comment is numbered and initials of the
sender, and refer to the number for response to this.) Director
commented that it is an excellent idea and encourage TC chairs to
use this to get TC work going as quickly as possible.
(6) D2 Website
The D2 website has been maintained to keep information
up-to-date. Some changes were made: 1) new background (also used
for CIE main page that is being renovated by CIE BA). On the TC
page; the status records for only past two years is posted to
reduce the file size. Documents submitted from TC chairs (not TC
draft) are posted on these TC pages (with no passwords).
Kohmoto commented that the managing system of D2 is working
very well compared with D6; all CIE divisions should apply the
same system. Ohno mentioned that it is already agreed among other
Division Secretaries to use the D2 website as a model for Division
website (Secretary meeting in Warsaw, 1999).
6. Editor's report (J. Moore)
(1) Editing documents
Since Warsaw, no TC reports have been submitted to
Editor.
(2) Status of publications
The document from TC2-33, CIE Standard Illuminants for
Colorimetry has been published as ISO10526-1999/CIE005-1998, which
replaces previous ISO/CIE 10526. The other document, a CIE
Standard - CIE System of Photometry from TC2-35 is under Division
ballot, due by the end of May. The Technical Report &endash; Pub.
54.2 Retroreflection: Definition and Measurement, from TC2-36 has
finished Division ballot and is to be published. This document
will replace Pub. 54-1982. (See TC2-36 report in later section)
The Editor also put together a report to publish the data from
now-closed TC2-22 (Luminous Flux of High-Pressure Sodium Lamps) in
CIE Collection. The report includes data of partially completed
intercomparison.
(3) Electronic ballot issue
The Editor has a concern on electronic balloting, which has
been employed since the ballot for TC2-14 document (on measurement
of reflectance and transmittance). At this ballot, we got 6
comments, and none of these were from countries that were active
in the TC. The same thing has happened to the ballot for TC2-36
document. Some Division members say they never received
notification in these two past votes. The Editor is not against
electronic balloting but brings up a caution that system is not
working and suggests that some measures be taken.
<Discussion>
Sauter commented that there should be a confirmation that the
notification and document have been received so that any
communication problems may be found. Goodman pointed out that
these people are not sending ballot back partly because they were
active in the TC and already happy with the document; another
problem may be that the voting has a very long dead line, and
people wait till the end and forget it. She suggested that a
reminder be sent two weeks before closing. Löfberg noted that
long reply time (90 days) is necessary for national committees to
collect comments, and agreed to have reminders for such a long
deadline. Vandermeersch mentioned that voting should reflect the
position of industry and government authority of that country, and
national committee should also be alert. He suggests all the NCs
also receive the voting information as well as Division members.
Johnson suggested that reminders be sent 30 days and 60 days
rather than two weeks. Ohno suggested that it might help if
Division Secretary also receives the notification and circulate
the information to Division Mailing List. Sauter suggested to post
the information at CIE website. Moore suggested that TC
chairperson should also receive a courtesy copy of the voting
document since the page layout of the voted version often changes,
which causes confusion at later editing process; TC chairs should
be kept informed at all stages until the document has been
published.
<Consensus>
Goodman summarized and the attendees agreed that
we request CB that, when the voting notification is sent to
CMs, CB also notify to the NC Secretaries that vote is
underway,
ask CB to issue reminders at 30 and 60 days to those countries
who have not responded,
ask CB to send a request to CMs for immediate response for
confirmation of receiving the notification and document.
A courtesy copy of the voting document (and notification)
should also be sent to the TC chairperson and Division Secretary
and the news also be posted on the CIE website.
7. Progress report of Technical Committees
7.1 Technical Committees
Progress reports on the technical committees were given by
Associate Directors. Vandermeersch reported TCs 2-23, 24, 49, 50,
and reportership R2-19, 25. Johnson reported TCs 17,19, 25, 28, 30
32, 35, 36, 39, 42, 44, 51, and reporterships R2-5, 6, 23, 24, 25.
Sauter reported TC2-04, 16, 29, 37, 40, 43, 45, 46, 47, 48, and
reporterships R2-18, 21, 22. The reports of all the TCs are shown
below in the numerical order of the TCs.
TR: Produce a technical report on the selection and
operation of stable secondary standard sources.
ST: A draft Technical Report has been circulated to the
members of the TC for ballot. Provided that no serious objections
are received, it is intended that the Division and Board ballot
should take place later this year and it should then be possible
to publish a CIE Technical Report on the selection and operation
of stable secondary standard sources next year. It has already
been decided to limit the coverage of the report to tungsten
filament lamps. Because of the special nature of the hand-made
lamps recommended for use as stable secondary standards, the
report will contain a complete list of all the known manufacturers
of such lamps. With recent rapid developments in digital scanning
procedures, it has been possible to include a number of
photographic illustrations in the report. These are not in colour,
but as far as the TCC is aware, it will be the first time that
photographs have been published in a CIE Technical Report.
TC2-16 Characterization of the performance of tristimulus
colorimeters
Chair: M. L. Rastello (Italy) AD: Sauter
ML: Denner (South Africa), Goodman (UK), Hengstberger
(South Africa), Moore (UK), Muray (USA), Ohno (USA), Rattunde
(Germany), Robertson (Canada), Sauter (Germany), Schanda
(Hungary), Steindl (Austria), Terstiege (Germany)
TR: To produce a report recommending methods for
assessing the performance of tristimulus colorimeter heads for
measuring chromaticity coordinates.
ST: Report given by TCC. The TC had a meeting on April
7th. The 5th draft was discussed. There was not enough time to go
through the document. We discussed a proposal by Ohno to evaluate
spectral response properties by using CRI. Some in favor, some
against. There was an alternative suggestion by Schanda to use
metamerism index, which is to be investigated. Schanda will
discuss this with the Chair on this by email. The Chair expects
commetns on the draft and the proposals from the TC members to be
reflected into the next draft.
TC2-17 Recommendation for integrated irradiance and
spectral distribution of simulated solar radiation
TR: Identify the critical measurement parameters,
tolerances, and requirements for, and conduct an international
intercomparison of, the spectral coefficient of
retroreflection.
ST: Report given by AD Johnson. The intercomparison
work has all been complete. The data are separated into two
documents, one contains data, and another is intended to be a
report of the intercomparison results for a CIE collection. We
held on to this because of one final laboratory that were still to
submit data. The Chair hopes to finish it toward the end of the
year.
TC2-23 Photometry of Street-Lighting Luminaires.
Chair: G. Vandermeersch (Belgium) AD:
Vandermeersch
TR: Prepare a technical report on the photometry of
street lighting luminaires
ST: Report given by the TCC. The report will be an
addendum to CIE 121. Three aspects will be addressed in the
addendum 1) photometric data, 2) photometric methods, and 3)
uncertainties. The work has not started yet because the work
relies on the D4 document on photometric calculation method in
public lighting, now at the final vote. The work should also have
a close link to work by CEN, chaired by the same person. For
uncertainty, we should consider the results of intercomparison of
luminaires by European Commission, which we are still waiting for.
(Iacomussi reported that it might be available this fall.) The
member roster will also be revised to include Netherlands and
representatives from D4.
TC2-24 Users guide for the selection of illuminance and
luminance meters
TR: Prepare a user's guide for the selection and use of
illuminance and luminance meters.
ST: The written report from the TCC was read by the AD
Vandermeersch. It summarizes as follows. The TC has been active
and has completed the draft of the first two chapters out of
eight. The responses for the circulated drafts of these are just
being received. Very good constructive comments have been received
from some of the members and more are expected soon after the
members find themselves free from the heavy work of the D2
meeting. The TCC proposes to hold virtual meetings on Internet and
complete the work within a year at best and submit the final draft
to the Division. The TCC has observed that some international
brands of cheap lux meters of very poor qualities are
mass-produced and sold with low prices with attractive
presentations. As such, there is a great and urgent necessity to
complete this users guide at the earliest. The TCC requests all
the D2 members even those who are not presently the members of the
TC to participate actively in the TC work. The drafts circulated
already are on the web and the members can send their
comments.
<Discussions>
Moore commented that he had heard nothing from the chairman
though he is a member and the former TCC, but he agrees that what
is proposed sounds sensible. (The Secretary will contact the
chairman to make sure that his circulars be sent to all the TC
members.)
TC2-25 Calibration Methods and Photoluminescent Standard
for Total Radiance Factor Measurement
TR: Prepare a CIE report on methods for measurement of
total radiance factors of photoluminescent materials.
Recommendations for realizing and calibrating photoluminescent
standards by the one and two-monochromator method swill be
included.
ST: Report given by the TCC. The TC last met in May
1999 in Vancouver, B.C. in conjunction with the Inter-Society
Color Council meeting. The eighth draft of the TC report was
discussed. Revisions were received to Section 2.1 on FWAs in
Textiles and Paper and it was recommended to condense the
information in Section 4.3 on the Effect of Instrument
Polarization and to remove the description of the
fluorescence-weakening method in Section 3.1 of the One
Monochromator Methods. The other suggested changes were largely
editorial in nature and include grouping the References together
at the end of the document. These revisions are currently being
implemented by the Chairman and the revised document (ninth draft)
will be circulated for TC ballot by the Fall of 2000.
TC2-28 Methods of characterizing
spectrophotometers
TR: Write a CIE report on the characterization of
spectrophotometers by means of reference materials and other
methods, with particular reference to linearity, wavelength error,
stray light, and integrating sphere errors.
ST: Report given by the TCC. The third draft was
recently distributed, and comments received from the members. The
TCC is working on the fourth draft and hopes to circulate it later
this year for TC vote and to finish the document by next D2
meeting. The contents of the report was presented at the D1/D2
Joint meeting.
TR: Prepare a CIE guide on methods for the
characterization of the linearity of detectors of optical
radiation, including different principles by which the linearity
of detectors can be determined and causes of non-linear behavior,
to aid users of optical radiation detectors in the selection and
use suitable devices for specific applications.
ST: Report given by the TCC. This TC has not progressed
much in the past year to her regret. The TCC finds it exceedingly
difficult to finish this work, and suggests to find another
chairperson. Jean Bastie will consider taking the chair. The TCC
will wait for his decision.
TR: Prepare an annotated bibliography for the CIE
journal on diode array radiometry. Make appropriate
recommendations for future work in diode array radiometry.
ST: Report given by the AD Johnson. This TC was
reassigned to Jim Palmer recently. No information has been
received from him this time.
TC2-32 Measuring Retroreflectance of Wet Horizontal Road
Markings
TR: To prepare a guide for the methods of measuring
coefficient of retroreflected luminance (specific luminance) of
horizontal road markings under wet weather conditions.
ST: AD Johnson reported. The TC had a meeting in
Warsaw. They plan a meeting and outdoor testing at the end of May
in Denmark to look at wet reflectivity of pavement markings. The
subject was divided into measurement of retroreflection of pave
markings after rain fall and, the other is during rain fall.
Testing procedures proposed are addressing questions on those two
aspects. These are highly related to work of Division 4 as well.
The TC will probably have a TC meeting in conjunction with Div.4
in Sep. in Toronto. They have a draft document and expect
revisions after the May experiments and the Toronto meeting.
TC2-35 CIE Standard for V(l) and V'(l)
Chair: K. Mielenz (USA) AD: Johnson
ML: Bastie (France), Gardner (Australia), Hengstberger
(South Africa), Moore (UK), Ohno (USA), Parr (USA), Robertson
(Canada), Sauter (Germany), Schanda (Hungary)
TR: To prepare a new CIE Standard on the present V(l)
and V'(l) functions.
ST: AD Johnson reported. The status was already
reported in Editror's report. The document went out for Division
ballot for the deadline of 31 of May. If no problem, it will then
be sent for NC ballot.
<Discussion>
Ohno asked about German translation that was done before
Division ballot. Sauter commented that some of the country members
did not receive the document and he was one of them, but received
a request from CIE CB for translation and got the document. He
made the translation as requested. Together with translation,
Sauter sent some comments on Annex in different format of
terminology from ILV and suggested to keep the same format.
Johnson suggested that we need an immediate follow-up on the
ballot. Director agreed to contact CB after the meeting. Schanda
noted that the CIE procedure is to conduct Board and Division
ballot in parallel. Schanda, as well as the Hungarian country
member, received the ballot sheet. The document hardcopy will not
be sent unless requested. All Division members should be asked to
respond for confirmation. The Board should address this
issue.
About translation issue, Johnson mentioned that ballots are
always sent out in English. Moore suggested that we do not
translate the document until we have final agreement on the
English version; this is a standard and there will be another
ballot by NCs, where more comments are expected, and this document
has not come to the final point yet.
Schanda gave information that, at the D1 meeting on 7 April,
D1 agreed to establish a new TC to define to be in a technical
report. The TC to be chaired by Schanda.
TC2-36 Retroreflection: Definition and Measurement
(Revision of CIE Publication 54, Liaison with CEN/226) AD:
Johnson
TR: To revise and update publication 54. To standardize
test methods and measurement geometry for measuring the
photometric and colorimetric properties of all types of
retroreflectors under both day and nighttime conditions. To
prepare this CIE document in ISO format to be issued as a joint
CIE/ISO standard.
ST: Report given by TCC. The TC has 15th draft after 8
years. The TC finished last work in Warsaw and went out for
Division ballot in last September. Some members did not receive
the copy. There was no negative votes but were several comments.
The TC met on April 7, and spent 3 and half hours to make
relatively minor changes. The 15th draft to be finished and to be
sent to editor and then to CB for publication. This concludes the
TC work and there will be probably no more meetings. However,
important aspect is to prepare a standard from this TC. It should
be the responsibility of a new committee with a new chairperson to
publish a CIE/ISO standard.
TC2-37 Photometry Using Detectors as Transfer
Standards
TR: To prepare a report on the properties of
V(l)-corrected detectors that are suitable for disseminating and
maintaining photometric units. This report will include methods
for the use of these detectors.
ST: Report given by TCC. Apology was given for little
progress made for the past year. The 6th draft is almost finished.
Some terminology issues were resolved. The section for method for
measuring reference plane has been rewritten to include an
absolute method and some precautions in practical measurements,
e.g., to use a sphere source. Next draft, hopefully a final
version before TC ballot, to be circulated shortly.
TC2-39 Geometric Tolerances for Colorimetry
Chair: D. Rich (USA) AD: Johnson
ML: Baba (Japan), Bittar (New Zealand), Decarreau
(France), Fisch (USA), Hanssen (USA), Jordan (Canada), Johnson
(USA), Kravetz (USA), Ladson (USA), Terstiege (Germany),
Pietrzykowski (Poland), Verrill (UK), Zwinkels (Canada).
Consulting member: Erb (Germany). &endash; revised June 1999.
TR: Compile a technical report and recommendations
specifying the geometric tolerances for the various geometries in
colorimetry, including 0/45, 0/d and others. Parts of this
technical report may be suitable for inclusion in a CIE standard
specifying several geometric tolerance levels.
Working Program:
Utilize ISO 5/1 and ASTM E 1767 to develop a system of
specifications for the geometry of color measurements. Define the
specifications in the following order: Reflectance factor (t/8,
d/8, d/0), radiance factor (45/0) and transmittance geometries
(0/0, d/0). Specifications will be developed via computer
simulation & verified experimentally.
ST: The TC met for the sixth time on 7 April in
Teddington. Three committee members and twelve guests were
present. Discussed the requirements to continue revisions of the
first draft report. Discussed in Warsaw that we need some
experimental verifications of some of the tolerances and
definitions that the TC is making. One of the member sent 8MB data
and begun to analyze it. Hanson also sent some data. Unfortunately
other things that we agreed to add have not been submitted and we
are 18 months behind. The TCC hopes to have another draft in fall,
and next year to have document close to finish. See Attachment 4
for the TC Activity Report and Minutes of the Meeting, 7 April,
2000 submitted by the chairman.
<Discussion>
Moore commented that this is one of the most important
documents and it is essential that these improved geometries and
tolerances be made into a standard. Rich mentioned that the
original TR was to produce a standard but TC decided that it was
premature. Our goal is produce a technical report with all
background information, and then we should be able to draft a
standard version from that under a standard committee.
Related to this TC, Schanda and Sagawa added that D1 decided
to establish a new committee to write a standard for colorimetry
based on 15.3, with Mike Pointer as the chair. Some of the parts
of 15.3 should be standardized. 15.2 is now widely used and some
other documents refer to this as a standard. Participation from D2
to this committee is welcome.
TC2-40 Characterizing the Performance of Illuminance and
Luminance Meters
TR: Convert the present CIE Technical Report No. 69
into an ISO/IEC standard. Prepare a combined CIE/ISO standard
describing the definitions of quantities influencing the
performance of illuminance and luminance meters, as well as
defining measurement procedures for the individual error
quantities.
ST: The chairman was here in London, but had to leave
early, and no report made this time. The draft document is on the
website.
TR: To produce a Technical Report summarizing
recommended practice for the measurement of the colorimetric and
spectroradiometric properties of visual displays.
ST: Report given by the TCC. First draft distributed in
January 2000, and the TC met on 7 April in Teddington with nearly
30 participants. The TC deals with emissive displays though it is
not indicated in the title. The TC addresses issues in the
measurement of x, y, Y - color and luminance of displays and does
not deal with electronic side, characterization of displays other
than color and luminance, nor appearance. Some more sections to be
added for 2nd draft, which is to be circulated next spring. Then
3rd draft is planned for fall 2001 and the final document for
spring 2002. A little restructuring of the document after the
first outline was circulated and comments received. The current
draft includes sections for display technologies, measurement
technologies, measurement methods, and recommended practice.
Emphasis will be made on measurement instrumentation and how to
deal with errors and uncertainties. Membership list will change to
include some D8 members.
<Discussion>
Rennilson asked about plasma displays. Hanson answered that if
there are specific problems with any other type of displays, we
can address the issues and any input is welcome. Rich commented
that IEC TC100/TA2, which he serves, is drafting standards for CRT
and flat panel, ahead of us. Hanson answered that we keep good
liaison with them by himself as well as Ohno and others; the IEC
document, as well as another one from VESA, are specifying how to
characterize displays, e.g. uniformity and viewing angle, which we
do not deal with in TC2-42 document. Johnson asked about liaison
to D8 in this activity. Hanson answered that he keeps good contact
with them. Ohno also serves as a liaison person to D8 from
D2.
TC2-43 Determination of measurement uncertainties in
photometry.
TR: To prepare a CIE recommendation as basis for the
determination of measurement uncertainties valid for selected
quantities used in photometry.
ST: Report given by the TCC. The TC met in Teddington
and discussed the third draft. The format and style of the
document have been agreed. The document is divided into 3 parts:
the first part is a summary of information from ISO Guide to the
Expression of Uncertainty (GUM), the second part is a selection of
examples, and the last part deals with uncertainty of quantities
correlated. Part dealing with summary of background is accepted.
Examples start with very simple questions, eg. the resolution of
meter indicators, operation of incandescent standard lamps at
nominal current, and how to handle correlated measurements. Still
looking for examples of more practical use. More ideas of good
examples are welcome.
TR: To provide liaison between Div.2 and TC 7-06
"Lighting Terminology" and support the preparation of the new
edition of the Lighting Vocabulary in the field of light and
colour measurements.
ST: Report given by the TCC. The work is being
finished. CB is to publish new ILV (International Lighting
Vocabulary) soon. The new ILV will be published in electronic
form, and it is proposed that this ILV be updated continuously.
The Chair circulated 200 definitions and got agreement on only 20
that will be added to D2 terminology. Many terms are still in
debate and could not be included in the next version: e.g.,
spectral mismatch correction factor, and distinction of "luminous"
and "radiant" from "photometric" and "radiometric". The new ILV is
planned to be published this year.
<Discussion>
Hanson asked how the ILV could be updated continuously. Moore
answered that update will made more often on the disk form, and
also, there is a suggestion that the vocabulary be made available
on the web in the future (though there are a lot of difficulties).
Johnson asked if any date associated with individual definitions
available; when ILV has additions and changes, it would be useful
to have information on each term when it is added or definition
changed. Moore answered that the committee has no plan to do so
but he agrees that it will be useful.
TC2-45 Measurement of LEDs - Revision of CIE 127
Chair: Kathleen Muray (USA) AD: Sauter
ML: Austin (USA), Bando (Japan), Balta (USA), Berkhout
(USA), Bouman (Netherlands), Budzinski (South Africa), Bym (USA),
Carr (USA), Distl (Germany), Ellis (USA), Fleischer (USA), Gan
(Singapore), Halkin (Belgium), Heidel (Germany), Jones (USA),
Kohmoto (Japan), Larsen (Denmark), Marchl (Germany), Moore (UK),
Myers (USA), Ohno (USA), Rastello (Italy), Sauter (Germany),
Scarangello (USA), Schanda (Hungary), Solomon (Taiwan),
Stolyarevskaya (Russia), Webb (USA), Young (USA) &endash; revised
Jul.00.
TR: Revise CIE Pub. 127 to include improved definitions
of quantities and methods of measurement for total flux and
partial flux of LEDs and to reevaluate other parts including
spectral and color measurements of LEDs.
ST: Report given by the TCC. The TC had the third
meeting yesterday. The second draft was presented. Major problems
are still to be resolved: 1) decision on how an alternate method
to replace f1' for LEDs. The same problem addressed by TC2-46. 2)
How to measure luminous flux. First question is what quantities
are needed. The TC is discussing the total flux (4p) and partial
LED flux (2p, etc., with defined reference point). This question
is highly dependent on users and applications. More discussions
are planned via email. See Attachment 5 for the Summary of the
Teddington TC meeting, submitted by the TCC.
<Discussion>
Heidel pointed out an error in membership list. Kohmoto
mentioned that f1' is good for white LEDs which will be more
practical in the future. Muray agreed to address it. Moore
mentioned that the situation of flux seems similar to the case for
luminous intensity. If industry use something other than the basic
photometric quantities, we should define some arbitrary geometries
that can be accepted by industry, just as done for intensity.
Muray answered that this was exactly what we are trying to do.
Sauter mentioned that total flux is not relevant to alignment and
no problem, but when we measure partial flux (hemispherical) we
need a reference position of LEDs to define the hemisphere. The
current decision is to use the bottom of LEDs located at the
plane. In case of intensity, use the tip of LEDs. Conical partial
flux may also be interested, then we need definitions for such
partial flux. The TC is open to more other geometries if
necessary.
TC2-46 CIE/ISO standards on LED intensity
measurements
TR: To prepare a CIE/ISO standard on the measurement of
LED intensity measurements based on the CIE Pub. 127.
ST: C. Jones reported representing Scarangello, sending
his regret. The TC had its third meeting on April 7 in Teddington
(chaired by Jones). The third draft was discussed. Some serious
issues have been resolved related to calibration of photometers
and radiometers for LED intensity measurements. The TC plans
virtual meetings to handle some of the remaining issues.
<Discussion>
Kohmoto mentioned that the recommended LED intensity
measurement is no problem for single-chip LEDs, but is a problem
for three-chip type white LEDs whose optical axis and spatial
distributions are different for each color. The same problem
exists for white LEDs with blue chip and phosphor. He suggested a
need for a new work in future for intensity measurements for white
LEDs. Jones answered that such subject should be discussed with
TC2-45 and 46 together.
Schanda mentioned that the recommended method (by CIE127) is
to use mechanical axis, not optical axis, so white LEDs should not
be a problem. Sauter mentioned that more complicated problems of
three chip type LEDs should be dealt with as a cluster of LEDs (in
TC2-50). Muray added that special problems of white LEDs will be
treaated in 2-45 in the last section of the document.
TC2-47 Characterization and Calibration Methods of UV
Radiometers
TR: Prepare a CIE recommendation on methods of
characterization and calibration of broad-band UV radiometers in
the spectral ranges of UVA and UVB for industrial
applications.
ST: Report given by AD Sauter. Gan Xu regrets for not
being able to be present. Not much progress has been made since
Warsaw meeting. The TCC has been in contact with some members of
the committee and UVnet WG1 leader to exchange opinions on the
content of the new document, and have started to write the
introduction and calibration parts. However, opinions are still
divided and decisions remain to be made on the following points;
whether CIE should adopt the major part of the UVNet WG1 document
on UV measurements; whether or not it is meaningful to follow the
same approach as in photometry for the characterization of UV
meters, taking into consideration that the spectral mismatch in UV
measurement is much worse and more complicated than the
photometric measurement. The TCC will summarize the situation
shortly and write to the members for consensus. The TCC also hopes
that the TC has chances to meet either later this year or the
first half of next year and have planned to get the first draft
ready for discussion by then.
TC2-48 Spectral responsivity measurement of detectors,
radiometers, and photometers
TR: To rewrite the technical report CIE 64 (1984)
"Determination of the spectral responsivity of optical radiation
detectors" to update device and measurement technology, and
include the spectral irradiance responsivity measurement for
radiometers and photometers from UV to near IR.
ST: Report given by the TCC. The TC met on April 8 in
Teddington. In the new report, we are including modern detectors
and also discusses not only spectral power response (beam
geometry) but also spectral irradiance response (overfilled
geometry) and radiance response measurements. New report describes
measurement geometries, methods, setups, and uncertainties. The
outline of the first draft was discussed in Warsaw and the scope
and table of contents agreed. Since then the second draft (40 %
done) was produced and discussed this time. Many suggestions have
been made, and the TCC will work on the slight change of the
structure and write the rest of the document. The TCC plans to
finish the work in three years.
TR: Produce a technical report for photometric
measurements of flashing light, including derivation of the
photometric quantities applied to flashing light, measurement of
light sources, and calibration of photometers for flashing
light.
ST: Report given by the TCC. The TC had its second
meeting in London, April 7, 2000 and discussed the new draft
(partial draft 0.2). The definition of effective intensity was
mainly discussed. The current draft employs the definition of
Schmidt-Clausen's Form- Factor method. A problem on the
Form-factor method was raised and a proposal (to use convolution)
was made by D. Couzin et al, claiming that the Form-factor method
would give erroneous values when a narrow pulse is superimposed on
a slow pulse. The TC did not agree to adopt the proposed method
that has no publication and not enough supporting data. Such
investigations would belong to D1. To address such a problem, the
TCC suggested to incorporate low-pass filtering (with a time
constant short enough not to alter the slow pulse). As there was
no time to discuss other parts of the document, the TCC plans to
hold a virtual meeting to follow up the discussion.
TC2-50 Measurement of the optical properties of LED
clusters and arrays
Chair: G. Sauter (Germany) AD: Vandermeersch
ML: C. Jones (USA), J. Scarangello (USA), Xu Gan
(Singapore), J. Arens (USA), T. Goodman (UK), D. Halkin
(Belgium)
TR: To produce a technical report for the measurement
of optical properties of visible LED arrays and clusters, to
derive optical quantities for large LED arrays and recommendations
for measurement methods and conditions.
ST: The report given by the TCC. This TC was
established in Warsaw last year. The start of the work delayed due
to major changes of the companies of the initial TC members who
proposed the TC. However, at the last ad-hoc meeting on LEDs on
April 6th, we are given clear directions of what to do. The
proposals in IEC (TC34-A) on photometry of white LEDs include
measurement of clusters and arrays, and the photometry part should
be handled by CIE &endash; this TC. There is standardization work
in progress in Japan, and this TC will be in close contact with
the Japanese group. The work is urgent and the TCC expects active
participation and contributions by many members.
<Discussions>
Vandermeersch commented that the specifications of LED lamp
sources will be covered by IEC34-A (lamps) but the aspect of
photometry will be transferred to CIE, which was agreed at the
last October meeting in Kyoto. They will meet next week in
Helsinki.
TC2-51 Calibration of diode-array spectrometers
Chair: Richard Austin (USA) AD: Johnson
ML: T. Goodman (UK), G. Hopkinson (UK), S. Prince (UK),
Pietrzykowski (Poland), R. Smith (USA), R. Bergman (USA)
TR: To produce a technical report which sets out
guidelines for the recommended procedures, methods and transfer
standards for the calibration of diode array spectrometers.
ST: This committee was formed in Warsaw. Technical
report that sets up guidlelines and recommended procedures to
calibrate such devices. There are in much more use in the past and
parallel in performance to scanning instruments. Provide a
guideline, maybe in appendix, for people to allow to make
decisions on what sort of measurements or results they can expect.
The initial meeting will be held in Rochester in May 8-10 in
conjunction with CORM2000. CORM has a new committee CR6 on this
subject which Austin is assisting. Hope to have a first draft
before the Rochester meeting.
<Discussions>
Clarke asked about dealing with spectrophotometers. Austin
answered that this TC will deal with spectral radiance and
irradiance measurements for sources. There are many similar
parameters as spectrophotometers but they apply slightly different
in terms of input geometry and calibration methods. Goodman hopes
that the document also includes spectrophotometers. Goodman has
some document that may be useful for the document and will send it
to Austin. Moore commented that he sees the two, spectrophotometry
and spectroradiometry, have important differences and are not
closely related.
7.2. Reporterships
R2-05 Visual Gloss (J. Taylor, UK) AD: Johnson
ST: No report from Taylor this time.
<Discussion>
Rich mentioned that, last week at TC130 meeting, WG4 has been
working on a draft of standards for measurement of visual gloss -
a form of gloss to be used in graphic arts industry, in which they
measure gloss and at the same time a component related to diffuse
reflectance in order to correct the gloss scale for changes of
average diffuse reflectance. The standard is about to come out as
draft standard.
R2-06 Standardization of Measuring Geometry for the
Colorimetry of Metallic Coatings (C. McCamy, USA) AD:
Johnson
ST: A written report submitted from McCamy (See
Attachment 2). It summarizes as follows. Both ASTM and DIN have
continued to pursue standardization of a method of measuring the
colors of metallic materials. The German work is nearing
completion and the standard will probably be issued at about the
time of the CIE meetings in UK this April. The American standard
is near completion and the committee responsible for it is turning
to the somewhat more complex task of standardizing measurement of
the colors of materials containing interference pigments. There
has been divergence of opinion on the choice of angles for
measuring metallic materials. The largest aspecular angle in the
proposed German standard is 75º, while that in the American
proposal is 110º. The German proposal includes some mandatory
tolerances. American standards do not usually contain tolerances
except where matters of safety are involved. These differences in
standards will present a substantial problem to the paint and
plastic industries. No effort yet to standardize the measurement
of materials containing interference pigments. McCamy recommends
considering formation of a technical committee and suggests asking
Dr. Allan B.J. Rodrigues of DuPont in the United States to chair
the committee, who is a leader in the metallic paint industry and
is the chairman of the ASTM committee on this subject. (to be
discussed in section of new TC)
<Discussion>
Terstiege added that German standards committee recently met
and finished the German standards as DIN standard, to be published
in August-September this year.
R2-18 OIML Matters (G. Sauter, Germany) AD: Sauter
ST: Sauter reported. There are currently no activities
that need actions by CIE but some issues may come up in
illuminance measurement. The reporter suggests to keep this
reportership open.
ST: The details on this issue was discussed at the
ad-hoc meeting on April 7. The written report from Bedocs was read
by Vandermeersch. An assessment of the photometry of emergency
lighting luminaires was made. The findings indicate that the
emergency lighting luminaires have to provide lighting conditions
similar to normal luminaires but at much lower levels, and at a
specified time after turning on for a set period. Therefore,
emergency lighting luminaires can be treated as a special variant
of standard luminaires. There are two types of luminaires,
self-contained with power source built in, and those with remote
power sources. The photometry of these two types of luminaires can
be made by the testing procedures given in CIE 121 (Photometry and
Goniophotometry of Luminaires). There is a need to provide
additional correction factors on the relative output of the
luminaires and circuit as specified times of operation. Also it is
necessary to provide ballast lumen factor for the luminaire
circuit. Recommendations: D2 should agree that no new separate
publication be produced for photometry of emergency luminaires. D2
should publish an addendum to CIE 121 which should contain the
definitions and meanings of the photometric factors together with
examples how to apply them. D2 to terminate this reportership.
(See later section for New Reporterships.)
R2-21 Use of detectors as absolute transfer standards for
spectroradiometry (N. Fox, UK) AD: Sauter
ST: Goodman reported. Much work is going on in the use
of absolute transfer standard detectors for spectroradiometry, but
is not yet at a stage to establish a TC. Fox suggests to keep the
reportership open.
R2-22 Implementation of SI Photometric Units (R.
Köhler, BIPM) AD: Sauter
ST: Sauter reported. Köhler sent a message stating
that, due to the fact that there are no real activities to create
new V(l) function in near future, he
recommends to close down this reportership.
<Discussion>
Sauter mentioned that we just learned from D1 that V10(l) will
be defined. Schanda mentioned that this could be a liaison issue.
Separate from this, he made a comment that, every year Division
gets report of a few lines from many of the reporterships and no
proposals. If a lot of things are happening, we should have more
detailed reports. Moore mentioned that the principle function of
the reporter is to make a recommendation whether or not we should
have a new TC or not. Sagawa mentioned that Kohler is the official
liaison person in D1 for D2. Goodman proposed to close this
reportership because we have liaison to CCPR through Kohler and
this will do the job when the issue has come up. The Division
agreed to close the reportership with no objection.
R2-23 ISO/CIE Standards for the measurement of reflectance
and Transmittance (Danny Rich) AD: Johnson
ST: Rich reported. As this is the first report from
this reportership since its inception at the Division 2 meeting in
Warsaw last summer, the reporter do not have a great deal of new
information to report. The reporter has found some technical
errors in Publication CIE 130 that he has reported to the Division
Secretary and requested independent verification. There is a
round-robin being conducted in a CORM technical subcommittee on
Optical Properties of Materials on diffuse reflectance using
research grade instrumentation over the range 360 nm to 780 nm at
5nm intervals. The current plans are to have four industrial
research labs participate and the results will be presented at the
2001 CORM meeting in Gaithersburg, MD just prior to the next
Division 2 meeting.
R2-24 Classification of Color Measurement instrument (Ohno)
AD: Johnson
ST: Ohno reported. This reportership was established in
Warsaw by request from D8. There is the same reportership in D8
with Ohno as the reporter. D8 likes to have guidelines as to how
accurate various color measuring instruments are, and in what
cases what kind of instruments should be used. Problem is that the
performance (the uncertainty) of the instruments is not clear from
manufacturer's catalogs. E.g., in case of display measurements,
they show uncertainty for only CIE illuminant A (which is similar
to repeatability of the instrument) and users tend to believe this
is the uncertainty for measurement of all colors of display. The
errors can be one order of magnitude higher for display colors.
They like to have a standardized way to characterize or evaluate
the uncertainties of these instruments and thereby to grade the
performance, as being done for illuminance meters in TC2-40 (class
A, B, C, etc.). Ohno has an idea of using color rendering index
(CIE 13.3) as presented at TC2-16 meeting on 7 April, and will
investigate this further. Ohno suggests to keep this reportership
open for another year.
<Discussion>
Answering question from Dave McDowell, Ohno mentioned that
this would include spectrophotometers as well as
spectroradiometers for displays. Rich asked 1) how one can
separate the instrument performance for displays from the
performance to reproduce surface colors (CIE13.3), 2) those
sampling of Munsell space (CIE13.3) is designed for spectral
distribution of lamps with low chroma. An instrument that can
measure these 13.3 samples may fail to measure other high-chroma
samples accurately. Ohno commented that these details should be
studied but he hopes that the differences of measurement targets
(between lamps and samples) may correlate well and hopes to come
up with an index like f1'. McDowell suggested to investigate
different metamors, e.g., spectral reflectance curves with more
abrupt changes. Ohno mentioned that the reference samples can be
replaced by other colors and these problems need to be
investigated and asked for help.
R2-25 Liaison with IALA (Ian Tutt) AD:
Vandermeersch
Report given by Tutt, who is a member of IALA (International
Association of Lighthouse Authorities). IALA is revising "Standard
for Photometry of Marine Aids-To-Navigation Signal Lights (1977)"
under a working group established last June. This is designed to
complement 1977 document and to be seen as a standard. The draft
will go to IALA Engineering Committee after Easter when they next
meet. If they accept it, they look towards approval of this
document by CIE as a CIE standard. The IALA committee will welcome
any comments on the comments. Any one need to see copies, contact
Secretary. The document recommends the use of Schimidt-Clausen's
method to calculate effective intensity for flashing light. During
this process, we compared various LED beacons using existing
methods. There are several methods included in the document
including "zero-length photometry" &endash; a specific technique
for measuring search lights.
<Discussion>
There was a question about the term zero-length photometry.
Moore suggested that terminology in this area be carefully
determined and possibly to be included in the ILV. Tutt added that
there is a proposed study in Europe on visual perception and
measurement of flashing lights. Trinity House is a partner of the
study. The proposal is at European Commission for their
approval.
7.3. Liaison report
CCPR (Köhler)
No report received this time.
<Discussion>
Sauter, as a CCPR working group member, gave the following
information. The MRA (mutual recognition agreement) for
equivalence of the units among national laboratories was signed in
October 1999. To achieve the equivalence, so-called Key
Comparisons are carried out, first at the CCPR level, then at RMO
(Regional Metrology Organization) level. The Key Comparison for
luminous intensity and luminous flux using transfer standard lamps
have just been finished with the final draft approved. 16
countries participated at the CCPR level and 10 participated in
the European RMO intercomparison for the luminous intensity and
luminous flux units.
IEC TC34A on Lamps, TC34D on Luminaires
(Vandermeersch)
Vandermeersch reported. As discussed at the ad-hoc meeting on
white LEDs the day before, the proposals on white LEDs were made
last year in TC34A. The work has not started at IEC. The decision
will be taken next week in Helsinki, regarding the part to be
submitted to CIE Div. 2. This question was also discussed in TC34D
(luminaires). This new type of LED lamps are already used for
signaling of emergency luminaires. Arrays of white LEDs, where we
have a problem that we have no requirements for uniformity of
luminances of this type of signs. Vandermeersch is a liaison in
this committee for CIE, and liaison is working well.
IEC TC100/PT61966 -Colour Measurement and Management in
Multimedia System (Y. Ohno)
Ohno reported. Written report received from H. Ikeda,
reporting that the former PT61966 has been restructured as TA2
(Technical Area 2) and that they had the first TA2 meeting in
Tokyo a few weeks ago. The meeting minutes are on the D2 website.
Liaison is maintained at D2 level (Ohno) and also by TC2-42. TA2
appreciates first draft of TC2-42. Many documents are being
developed in TA2 and some D2 members (Ohno, Schanda, Hanson, and
Rich) reviewed these documents (not all and not completely) and
sent comments. The sRGB standard (Part 2) has been published last
October. Part 3 (CRT) and 4(LCD) both have just been published.
Part 5 (Plasma display) and Part 6 (Image projection) are being
developed. Part 9 (Digital camera), which Ohno made some
contribution last year, is in its final stage. They plan to
develop some more documents.
<Discussion>
Schanda mentioned that this group is working extremely hard
and very fast. Part 1 is the area CIE should be responsible. CIE
should start working on it as soon as possible. Ohno will look
into this for necessary action by D2.
JTAG2 &endash; ISO/IEC Joint Technical Advisory Group 2 (Y.
Ohno)
McDowell, the chair of JTAG2 was present to give a report.
This is a joint ISO IEC committee to coordinate among all ISO,
IEC, and CIE committees involved in imagery. Measurement is a big
part of the coordinating activity. JTAG2 meets every 9 months.
Currently CIE representative to that is Tim Kohler from CIE D8
(Alan Robertson formerly represented CIE). He will send reports to
D2 Secretary. Now there are not much issues that directly affect
D2. Mainly it is a forum for exchange of concerns and
recommendations to CIE and IEC committee for action and ISO
technical management board. One important thing that occurred
recently is that JTAG2 made a recommendation that procedures be
modified to enable true joint activities between CIE, IEC and ISO.
Today if we want to have a joint standard with CIE/IEC/ISO logo,
the only process is to develop a document in one organization and
sent to others for yes/no vote. There is no mechanism in place for
truly joint development. We welcome any concerns you have, sent to
Tim Kohler or McDowell. If D2 or D1 sees enough concerns on
imagery issues and they wish to have representative, it would be
possible, too.
There are a number of related activities. ISO TC42
photographpy and ISO TC130 graphics arts are two image committees
that interact most with CIE. IEC/TC100 multimedia, an IEC
committteee that deals with characterization of display devices,
as well as printers, cameras and detectors. TC42 photography is
also looking at characterization of electronic capture devices.
TC130 as well as industry consortium, ICC, who are developing
color management techniques and characterization of output
devices. McDowell is AD of D8 for liaison. True joint activity is
important and we make sure that imaging community keep CIE
informed.
ISO TC6/WG3 Paper, board & pulps (J. Zwinkels)
Zwinkels reported. Written report already submitted to
Secretary (see Attachment 3). This committee will meet in
Vancouver in September. Number of issues that is interest within
this WG. One of these is the standard for measurement of gloss at
20°. Question is which refractive index, wavelength, and
standard illuminant should be used in the definition, and the
calibration of reference instruments &endash; specialized
spectrophotometers at d/0 geometry defined by ISO2469. Past year
Zwinkels reviewed two ISO draft standards and sent to CIECB, One
was determination of color in C/2 geometry. Another ISO draft
standards called "Paper and board: Measurement of specular gloss -
75° gloss with a converging beam, TAPPI method". Gave
extensive comments and raised concerns over their relaxation of
the geometric tolerances. Pointed out that these tolerances were
unacceptably large and contrary to the findings in published
studies on the instrument variables. Another ISO 2469 Measurment
of Diffuse Reflectance Factor is now under revision. ISO 2470
Measurement of diffuse blue reflectance factor (ISO brightness) is
also under active revision. Received correspondence from Secretary
about a concern raised by Ellen Carter that the ISO subcommittee
was defining the UV content of Illuminant C for measurement of
fluorescent materials. A reply was sent to her to clarify that the
committee is proposing to redefine ISO brightness and not to
redefine Illuminant C. Zwinkels will follow up on this committee
to make sure they will not violate the CIE's territory.
ISO TC 180/SC 1: Solar energy/Climate - Measurement and
data (Dieter Kockott)
No report has been received this time.
Division 8 (Ohno)
Ohno reported. D8 added a new TC8-06 (Image Technology
Vocabulary) chaired by Schanda. TC8-02 has a very comprehensive
draft and some interest by D2. D8 has a reportership (Grading of
instruments) &endash; the same one as R2-24 as reported above. D8
will meet in Derby after this D2 meeting. See Attachment 7 for the
summary of the status of D8.
Moore commented that grading of instruments is very important
and is something that D2 has been concerned for a long time.
8. Dissolution of TCs and other functions
Division 2 agreed as follows.
(1) R2-22 Implementation of SI Photometric Units, is to be
closed as proposed by the reporter.
(2) R2-19 Emergency Lighting Luminaires, is to be closed since
a new TC is to be established from the reportership (See next
section).
9. Proposal for NEW TCs and Reporterships
New TCs
(1) Photometry of Emergency Lighting Luminaires
(Vandermeersch)
TR: To produce an addendum to CIE publication 121
containing specific requirements for the photometry of emergency
lighting luminaires, in particular to provide additional
correction factors on the relative output of the luminaires at
specified times of operation.
Vandermeersch proposed to establish this new TC, as proposed
from R2-19 by Bedocs. Keep the same document number since this
document (CIE121) is already referred in other European and
international documents. The addendum will define proper
correction factors for use in emergency luminaires, and also
provide practical methods to measure such type of luminares
because the total luminous flux of luminare is to be measured as a
function of time, and an integrating sphere must be used rather
than a goniophotometer.
<Discussion>
Answering a question by Moore, Vandermeersch added that the
correction factor is due to the fact that normally all
meausrements for luminaires are expressed in cd/1000 lumens using
catalog lumen values of bare lamps, but in emergency luminaires,
the flux of bare lamps are quite different because of built-in
power supplies and operation time. Moore also asked if any
correction is needed for mesopic region. Vandermeersch answered
that photopic value is used over 30 years and this cannot be
changed. Sauter suggested to give a better terminology for this
correction factor. Vandermeersch volunteers to chair this TC with
help of Bedocs and other members. Schanda commented that we need
to be very careful with CIE-IEC-CEN coorperation as he remembers
that final votes for documents often came out with one or two
negative votes from European countries because the document is not
identical with the CEN draft; it is critical to work with CEN
committee at early stage.
<Decision>
D2 agreed unanimously to establish this new TC.
(2) CIE/ISO standards on retroreflectance measurements
(Rennilson)
A proposal made from Rennilson to publish a CIE standard on
retroreflectance, by taking the important contents from the TC2-36
report (Revision of Pub. 54 to be published).
<Decision> Since the TR and chairperson have not
been proposed, Division agreed to defer the decision. Rennilson
will prepare proposed TR and chairperson and circulate first to
TC2-36 members. The Division will then vote by email.
(3) Measurement of metallic coatings (McCamy)
A new TC was proposed in the McCamy's report for R2-06.
Johnson explained that the proposal is to take the work by ASTM
and DIN committee to issue a standard and turn this into an
international document that would recommend the measurement
angles, calibrations, and other aspects of measurement for
metallic materials.
<Decision>
Since a TR was not prepared, Division agreed to wait to see it
before voting. Johnson will work with McCamy to prepare TR and to
circulate it for division voting.
(4) Definition of star magnitude (Rastello)
Rastello relayed the proposal from Paolo Soardo. The tentative
TR is to establish the relationship between astronomical magnitude
and the SI unit, lux. The reason for this proposal is present
tension on lighiting polution problem. Some documents have already
been issued by Div.4. Liaison to be made with D4 and IAU
(Internationa Astronomers Union). The objective is to write a
technical report then later to publish a CIE standard.
<Discussion>
The proposal was not clearly understood (Moore et al). Schanda
mentioned that other Divisions (4 and 5) deal with astronomical
communities (stray light, dark sky, etc), and suggested to bring
it up at next board meeting to ask their opinion, then if
necessary, to establish a reportership to collect information to
made judgement. Rennilson mentioned that we should get input from
IDA(International Darksky Association), and try to get
information.
<Decision>
Director will bring up this issue at next Board meeting to get
inputs from other Division directors and, if it is found
necessary, will establish a reportership.
10. General Issues
(1) Handling of TC documents on the website
We had some discussions by email before this meeting. To
summarize it, we have three possible options &endash; 1) have the
draft totally open, 2) restrict to people on the D2 mailing list
with a global password, 3) restrict each document for TC members
only with each password for each TC. We need to bear in mind that
CIE drafts should not be available for CIE non-experts. Code of
practice says the draft documents are only available for TC
members. If we did other than option 3), we would be against the
code of practice. Reason is that there are often errors in early
drafts, and wide dissemination of such could be a lot of confusion
and damage the reputation of CIE. Also, publication is a valuable
source of income of CIE. Draft toward at their final stages is
quite temptation for some people to use it rather than buying the
documents.
Ohno suggested another option to combine option 2 or 3 above,
choose the ways depending on the TCs and the stage of the draft.
The decision may be left to TC chairs. Ohno mentioned that he
could set up the D2 website for any of these options. Sauter
mentioned that, if we choose option 3, there is a possibility that
some people become a member of TCs only to get draft documents.
Goodman answered that it is left to discretion of TC chairperson
to accept only those members who are contributing to the TC.
Terstiege agreed to Sauter's comment. Schanda pointed out that the
code of practice says it is a task of TC chairperson to drop
inactive members. Moore suggested that TC chairs should be warned
for this practice. Moore commented that he prefers option 3 and is
against option 1. N. Johnson suggests to differentiate between the
draft and the approved document by clear background on the
document saying "DRAFT", then it would be no problem to have it
open. Rennilson mentioned that National Comiittees can request
anyone from the country to be on the committee whether or not he
or she contribute to TC or not. Schanda answered that such person
can be accepted first, but later should be dropped. Austin
commented that, option 3 can still work for Johnson's concern
because if some non-members ask for a draft copy, the TC chair can
send it electronically to such persons under his discretion.
Löfberg is hesitant to have drafts open to everyone. People
still have access to the list of TC, TR, and other information on
TCs, so if people are really interested in some draft document,
they can contact TC chairs or someone and they can get the
document. He suggests to use option 3 or combination of option 2
or 3. Goodman asked, if we have individual password for each TC,
could it be possible to update the password to exclude inactive
members? Ohno answered it is technically possible. Kathleen thinks
option 3 is the best option, but regarding to excluding inactive
members, she wonders what is the definition or the rules to decide
who is actively participating TCs. Goodman answered that it is up
to the TC chair. Schanda suggests to visit CIE website to see the
Code of Procedures. Sauter suggested to charge a very small amount
of price to visit the draft page on the website, then the problem
of the income may be solved. Goodman answered that it is beyond
what we can decide here.
Director Goodman took vote on the options from all the
participants. The result was 7 for option 1, 10 for option 2, and
10 for option 3. Goodman suggests that we choose option 3 for the
moment because of the Code of Practice, but will present this at
the board for discussion and their advice on this issue.
(2) Other subjects
Due to shortage of time, other subjects on the agenda will be
discussed via email reflector.
11. Future meetings
2001
May 16-19 at NIST, Gaithersburg, Maryland, USA, in conjunction
with CORM2001 (Council for Optical Radiation Measurements) on May
14-16 and with the NIST Centennial Celebration. D2 main meeting
will be Saturday, May 19.
2002
As there have been no proposals from any countries, Director
suggested to have another joint meeting with Division 1 (planned
in conjunction with AIC Session in Slovenia). Schanda also offered
an invitation to Univ. of Veszprem in Hungary. Any other proposals
can still be considered.
2003
San Diego, California, USA, around last week of June to first
week of July, as a part of CIE 25th Quadrennial Session.